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ASHA Schools Virtual Town Hall 2021 - Shared screen with speaker view
Kimberly smejkal
26:12
Hello from AZ!
Elissa Finkelstein
26:12
Looking forward to a great webinar
Lisa Green
26:13
Hello from Marietta ,GA
Kelly Braker
26:15
Hello from Wisconsn
Margaret Lohner
26:17
Smyrna. GA - hi all!
Amy Mandlman
26:19
Hello from STL, MO!!
Jill Bailey
26:22
Hello from South Carolina!
Leah Bush
26:27
Hello from Powder Springs, GA!
Anne Harris
26:28
Hello from Pittsburgh PA
Julie Vetter
26:29
Hi from Missoula Montana!
Mary Fleming
26:29
Greetings from Chicago!
Mary Longshore
26:30
Hello from Woodstock, Georgia
Sandra Chong
26:32
Hello from Waipahu, Hawaii
Donna Taylor
26:33
Hi from Gulfport, MS
Karen Van Voy
26:36
Hello from southern CA!
Sharon Nicole Forrest
26:36
Hello from CA
Krista Roland
26:36
Hello from manatee country- Citrus County Florida!
Shirnett Kerr
26:38
Hi from New Jersey
Miriam Hill
26:39
hello from New Jersey
Lisa Mickle
26:43
Lisa Mickle from New York
Amy Johnson-Spann
26:43
Hello from Snellville, GA
Lori Goldberg
26:45
HI from Cherry Hill, NJ
Karen Millett-Lambie
26:49
Hello from Clearwater, Florida (on vacation)!
Ralph Engle
26:51
Hello from El Paso, TX!
Tonia Young
26:52
Hi from Massachusetts!
Linda Lafontaine
26:53
Hello from Southampton MA!
Chandrasekaran Kodumudi
26:54
Hi from Ontario, Canada
Katie Cate
26:54
Hello from SC!
Dwana Cole
26:57
Hello from Douglasville, GA
Jodie Victor
26:58
Hi from Los Angeles !
Joyce Norris
27:00
Hello from Pennsylvania
Danielle Hammel
27:01
Hello from Marietta, GA!
Karen V Senior
27:02
Hello from Orangeburg SC
Tracey LoPresto
27:02
Hi from Michigan!😀
Carolina Tovar
27:03
Hello from Mexico!!
Christina Murray
27:08
Hello from Kentucky!
Julie Peacock
27:09
happy fall from Oregon
Alexandra Levin
27:11
hi! from DC
Angela Owen
27:14
Hello from Illinois
WENDY ROARK
27:17
Greetings from Arkansas!
Mariah Smith
27:31
Hello from Utah!
Jeanne McMillan
27:37
Hello from Indiana
Chabre Hall
27:39
Hi from Maryland!
Karen Kanter
27:41
Hello from Stow, MA, known for apples and golf courses! ;-)
Randy Austin
27:42
Heeeeeey! Georgia Stand Up.
Jamie Schettler
27:42
Hello from New Glarus WISCONSIN!
Alison Cianciolo
27:44
Hello from Connecticut
Antoinette Bentley
27:49
Hello, from Bay Area
Karen Shirley
27:51
Hi from NM!
Kate Sweet
27:55
Hi from Austin!
Sharon Walters
27:58
Hi from South Carolina!
Julie Urquidez
28:06
HOLA desde California
Traci Mills
28:07
Hello from Southern, OH
Kimberly Ambrozaitis
28:13
Hello from Michigan!
Tanya Castro
28:19
Hello from New York
Stephanie Kersting
28:28
Hi from CT
Maureen Kurzynowski
28:43
Hello from Ocean County, NJ
Charlene Daly
28:44
Good afternoon from the central valley in California
Kathleen Mays
28:45
Hello from Colorado
Sharon Schloss
29:13
hi from Connecticut everyone. Land of lets test our kids...
Elaine Rau
29:18
Hi from Chicago!
Charlene Bielak
29:27
Hello from NJ
Hope Warner
29:37
Good evening, from Pittsburgh, PA!
Dawn Merrix
29:43
Hello from Tallahassee, Florida!
Risa Louda
29:59
Hello from NJ!
Nicole Gallante
30:08
Hi from NY!
Wanda Ramsey
30:29
Hello from South Carolina!
Patricia Bowers
30:57
hi from IL
Rona Butler
32:02
Hello from Georgia!
Kassidy Seeley
32:46
Hi from Downeast Maine!
Elaine Rau
34:05
Thanks for the poll on caseload. I wish you would provide an option to indicate part-time or full-time. I work 17 hours a week and have a caseload of 36.
Ashley Johnson
34:38
Yes, I had the same issue as Elaine. I couldn't indicate part-time.
Hollie Farren
34:47
my caseload is currently 41 and I work full time
Sharon Walters
34:50
I agree. I provide additional consultation on AT so my caseload isn't representative either.
Maureen Kurzynowski
34:56
Ditto on part time/full time
Tiffany White (she/her/hers)
35:05
Yes. The slides will be available following this program
Tara Kirkpatrick
35:10
I'm "retired" and so also work PT.
Francine DeMarco
35:22
I’m an administrator and we try to cap our SLPs at 55 but with the staffing shortage I regret to say that many are over caseload
Kathleen Cordero
35:36
I agree
Melissa Petersen, SLP (she/her)
36:05
Could ASHA perhaps DO some of that research about what is a "reasonable" workload/caseload? We need to have some objective standard to aim for!
Karen Lewis
36:16
I'm in two buildings and started the year in mid 70s
Kimberly Ambrozaitis
36:41
In Michigan, our recommended caseload size per the state is 60, which was written in 1975. I’d say it is quite out of date.
Tonia Young
36:51
I am in 2 buildings as well and have close to 125 students between the 2.
Tanya Castro
37:05
The problem also lies in the nationwide shortage of SLP's and SLPA's and the continued referrals received for children.
MELINDA ALDRICH
37:08
Would also like the opportunity to notate how many we have in Intervention/RTI/Child Study. Whichever your district calls it.
sheila oliver
37:14
Can this Power Point be emailed to participants after this training?
Jodie Victor
37:18
Good point Melissa--I negotiated a new cap for our department last year and I had to get creative with my rationale for the numbers I presented to admins!
Alison Cianciolo
37:32
Power to the SLPs with 55+ students-rockstars!
Tanya Castro
37:41
SLP
Karen Lewis
38:09
working in schools during COVID has been even more stressful
Maureen Kurzynowski
38:14
crazy caseload #, Tonya (125!). What's your trunk look like?
Sharon Walters
38:25
The caseload hasn't changed since I stared 25 years ago but I am doing 2 to 3 times the amount of paperwork.
Tanya Castro
38:32
SLP's are just exhausted and overworked so the quality of service may suffer.
Adele M Wolff
39:05
SLPAs do more and more therapy while the SLP does the paperwork and attends meetings
Charisse Wan
39:23
There is so much assessment to catch up on this school year with students returning to in person learning
Melissa Petersen, SLP (she/her)
40:44
Could the accessibility features please be turned on for closed captioning, please?
Melissa Petersen, SLP (she/her)
41:04
I'm surprised that accessibility features aren't already enabled.
Hope Warner
52:52
As a special ed administrator and former SLP, we need to get more SLPs into administration! :0)
Stacey Ellison Glasgow
53:53
https://www.asha.org/slp/schools/workload-calculator/
Tara Kirkpatrick
58:33
Pandemic has been a TOTAL challenge! Right??
Eva Hess
59:30
I completed my administration certification, but very difficult to get a job...hiring often done with the person they want in mind! But I agree.
Stacey Ellison Glasgow
59:36
3 weeks for direct services and 1 week for indirect, collaboration, observations, assessments etc.
Sharon Schloss
01:00:08
my system is now going by sessions and not times per week. this helps.
Katherine Coleman
01:00:38
Also it seems like SLP shortage makes it challenging for SLPs to move into admin roles...they don't want to lose us in our SLP roles!
Ilene Ganzman
01:00:43
Does anyone know of an amplifier / mic system that will allow the children to project. It is so hard to hear them with the masks on Help!!!!
Katherine Coleman
01:00:47
Sharon, what do you mean by sessions and not times/week?
Joan Derech
01:01:27
56 sessions per year....vs. writing 2x30 weekly....
Joan Derech
01:02:00
it allows for a session here or there to be missed for sickness, field trips, assemblies, etc. without being out of compliance on the IEP
Katherine Coleman
01:02:02
My admin won't let us do yearly for legal reasons; she is okay with monthly, though ..
Katherine Coleman
01:02:09
But monthly only goes so far
Laura Talavera
01:02:34
We also write sessions per marking period which give us flexibility to see the students and keep compliant.
Joan Derech
01:02:34
"yearly" implies the full IEP year, not Sept to June
Carol Petersen
01:02:48
One challenge from COVID is having to keep groups from one classroom, because my grade school is staying in cohorts due to possible quarantining. Lots of mixed groups.
Hope Warner
01:03:00
Sometimes this type of frequency is hindered because of the billing system that is linked to the IEP frequency (requiring minutes per month, rather than number of sessions per IEP cycle).
Tara Kirkpatrick
01:03:02
I've seen that be misunderstood to use "year".
Tanya Castro
01:03:07
Whats not being addressed is getting admin to not just understand SLP roles but also how to problem solve at the district level across schools. SLP's are often left to scramble between scheduling, observation, testing, etc.
Shirnett Kerr
01:03:18
Is anyone's district doing minutes per month vs. per week? If so has that helped with managing your responsibilities outside of direct therapy?
Tara Kirkpatrick
01:03:22
Per 9-week grading period seems to be accepted.
Maureen Kurzynowski
01:03:49
One of the school districts in which I worked also incorporated a high school student assistant (interested in pursuing SL major in college). That HS student was an asset (and is now in an SLP program at a University in FL)!
Lori Goldberg
01:03:49
We're being asked to provide compensatory services and remote learning for students who are quarantined.
Eva Hess
01:03:50
We do monthly also. But with all the days off its sometimes even difficult to manage compliance that way.
Katherine Coleman
01:03:56
I asked about grading period and that was a no go, too...
Sharon Alkalay
01:04:02
The problem is that many SLPs are willing to continue working under these conditions without speaking up. If enough people stay silent, nothing will change.
Kathleen Cordero
01:04:18
We do minutes per year over 30 weeks. So 900 minutes over 30 weeks= 30 minutes a week
MELINDA ALDRICH
01:04:23
Ilene - we have teachers using this system and it seems to really help. I'm wondering if mic covers could be exchanged out between students for sanitation? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KJ3TD6W/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
Kathleen Cordero
01:04:27
For example
Tara Kirkpatrick
01:04:30
True Sharon.
Alison Cianciolo
01:04:59
Some districts in CT are having SLPs miss PD days to make up sessions, no school days for missed sessions-a huge union issue.
Tanya Castro
01:05:11
true. A few SLP's in a school advocating will not change things at the district level.
Laura Talavera
01:05:36
Yes, I'm in Delaware and I have also written minutes per month which has helped with those artic kiddos that I could see more frequently (independently) for 10 min. It also translated into better student outcomes.
Tanya Castro
01:06:04
Regardless of the budget allocation for additional teachers and SLP's ...there is a nationwide shortage of SLP's...
Jodie Victor
01:06:21
Amen, Sharon. My team almost didn't get a decrease in caseload because they weren't speaking up about how hard they were working (due to years of seeing too many students)!!
Alison Cianciolo
01:06:44
I fear it is going to get worse as it is 10.27 and SLPs are burnt already.
Sharon Schloss
01:06:53
In my district in CT we do a minimum number of sessions. So if you miss, then you do not "make-up". No more 2x week. but 55 times a year
Tanya Castro
01:06:56
Some states ( New York) does not use SLPa's which would be helpful
Donna Taylor
01:07:18
...meaning a shortage of SLPs willing to work in the setting....or just in general?
Alison Cianciolo
01:07:36
in the schools Donna.
Suzette Perrin
01:09:26
Advocates and parents are not happy with a sessions schedule. They giveus much grief at IEP meetings if we deviate from 30 times 2 or 1 time a week.
Alison Cianciolo
01:09:38
yes!
Maureen Kurzynowski
01:10:34
"educational impact" is broad semantics.
Suzette Perrin
01:10:36
we have advocates trying to dictate which classes we cannot push into or pull out of during IEP meetings, It's been CRAZY. WHO IS THE PROFESSIONAL HERE ANYWAY!!
Karen Millett-Lambie
01:10:51
Honestly..... SO MANY OF US HAVE TRIED TO UTILIZE A WORKLOAD MODEL. ADMINISTRATORS WON'T GO FOR IT NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE TRY TO EDUCATE THEM. ????? WHY CAN'T ASHA WORK WITH STATE EDUCATION DEPARTMENTS? THE DISTRICTS FOLLOW WHAT THE STATE ED DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS.
Sharon Walters
01:10:54
Great point of focusing on what is happening in the classroom!
Alison Cianciolo
01:11:01
curriculum materials make generalization so much easier-teachers then see us a collaborators opposed to fun and games speech.
Tara Kirkpatrick
01:11:06
And services need to be more for early learners and we need to be telling parents from day 1 that contact time will be decreasing if their kiddo stays in therapy. My goal in Jr Hi/Middle School is to start decreasing their time. Workload/Caseload should be less in the secondary settings.
Lauren Kelley
01:11:39
I second using curriculum-based materials!
Suzette Perrin
01:12:19
We enjoy being a part of each teacher's Google classroom for assignments and collaborations,
Stacey Ellison Glasgow
01:12:24
https://seacdc.org/contact-us.html
Tara Kirkpatrick
01:12:29
We're supposed to be supporting their education!
Tanya Castro
01:12:30
KAREN Totally agree. As a unified professional body with the assistance of ASHA more can be done to address these issues with Stae Ed Depts and regs.
Kimberly Ambrozaitis
01:13:38
Can ASHA please work with states to advocate for change in the laws that to address very old caseload minimums. This is what administrators are adhering to and NOT to workload recommendations from its employees. It has been fruitless on our level and very frustrating no matter how many workload calculators and educational impact statements I provide.
Laura Talavera
01:13:39
I would love to do more push-in and collaboration, but the students are scattered across so many classrooms. How are you all handling this issue?
Kelly Braker
01:14:20
Ditto question from Laura Talavera
Alison Cianciolo
01:14:31
Has anyone worked with their district unions when the contracts are being revised? That is a time we can get involved at the district level.
Francine DeMarco
01:14:43
Suzette, I agree with you in terms of litigious cases with advocates. It is very hard to change the model of services
Shirnett Kerr
01:14:49
If states had a maximum amount of students who can be on the SLPs caseload, that would be a great start.
Suzette Perrin
01:15:13
Our SLPs are lumped in with all teacher's for contracts with bargaining unit.
Kimberly Ambrozaitis
01:15:28
Added issue to pull-out services is that we are being limited to HOW many students and grouping to co-horts because of COVID precautions. That has made my entire day seeing students. No time for paperwork at all at school.
Francine DeMarco
01:15:33
Even with caseload caps, the SLP shortage is real.
Alison Cianciolo
01:16:03
Same in CT Suzette. Ihave been part of the negotiating and bringing awareness to the demands-incremental steps, but steps.
Jodie Palmer
01:16:28
what about adding SLPA's to help with case loads?
Maureen Kurzynowski
01:16:56
For Sharon from CT: Is 55 times a year a "one size fits all" or do you have the professional decision to provide more/less time based upon the student's diagnosis and projected prognosis?
Alyse Rostas
01:17:26
How can we get the states to understand the need for flexible minute requirements on an IEP. In New York we do not have any flexibility as our sessions must be written as 30 minute sessions provided weekly with a 1 time a week as a minimum.
MELINDA ALDRICH
01:17:44
I have had positive experience in using a communication severity scale to determine minutes and explain to IEP team why the minutes are what they are.
Karen Lewis
01:17:47
It's disheartening to hear this caseload/workload discussion go on for so many years
Theresa Rodgers
01:17:55
One of the keys to providing in-classroom services is working with the school principal so that students needing services are grouped in 2 or so classrooms per grade rather than in all classrooms. There was a great deal of district-level training for school administrators and general ed teachers along with special educators when the district I worked in began doing inclusive services decades ago.
Krista Roland
01:18:01
When I have looked at the ASHA caseload-workload survey, I realized we have therapists not doing the indirect things (ie: AAC programming) to support students because it simply does not fit in the extended hours that are already put in
Kelly Braker
01:18:10
In Wisconsin, we can't negotiate any working conditions. We lost all that power when ACT 10 took place in Wisconsin in 2011.
Jennifer Seward
01:18:17
Melinda, what is the communication severity scale?
Tara Kirkpatrick
01:18:39
Had a state auditer ask me to rationalize 30 minutes/2x per week for so many of the students on my caseload. Really made me look at things differently from then on.
Kimberly Ambrozaitis
01:18:42
Our unions assist SLPs in a VERY limited way unfortunately. We have no one advocating for us and our administration is “over-ruling” recommendations from our SLPs on student minutes when parent “complains”
Lisa Gruber
01:19:02
Melinda Aldrich, Could you share your communication severity scale or where you found it? My district is interested in using/developing something like this. Thank you.
Katherine Coleman
01:19:21
My question about the communication severity scale is that it seems like it proposes way MORE minutes for complex kids than is typical, rather than looking more toward collaboration/consultation. Am I missing something?
MELINDA ALDRICH
01:19:30
It's basically a matrix that allows you to notate how impaired a student is and from there it gives you a point scale which helps you determine how many minutes of service is appropriate.
Sherri AH (she, her)
01:20:00
I am retired. Can someone let me know what 3 to 1 model?
Michelle Buckenberger
01:20:14
Do your districts have a certain score for qualifying students, like -2 standard deviations in one area or -1.5 in two areas. Where I used to work, this was the case. Now, we have no defined rule at all
Kimberly Perkins
01:20:14
Communication Severity Scale is wonderful. Out of San Diego USD
Elaine Rau
01:20:15
In Illinois, ISHA worked long and hard to get the state dept. of ed. To reduce the caseload max from 80 t0 60. This was years ago and it is outdated. It also does not take severity levels into account. I agree with previous comments that
Nicholas Bruno
01:20:23
Yeah! What is a 3 in 1 model?
Lisa Potruch
01:20:31
Yes, can you describe what a 3:1 model is please?
Laura Talavera
01:20:44
3 weeks of therapy on and one week off
Kathleen Cordero
01:20:45
San Diego County Office of Education has a Communication Severity Scales. San Diego California really helps to frame discussions on student needs
Suzette Perrin
01:20:51
3 weeks of direct therapy and the 1 week of the month of indirect services
Cynthia Barksdale
01:21:00
Three weeks of direct services and one week of flex scheduling for paperwork, testing, meetings, all the other things we do.
Antoinette Bentley
01:21:01
Is there a max number of students that we can see in a pull out group?
Sharon Schloss
01:21:07
so hard to dismiss those /R/ leftover kids. We have to really say there is no educational impact.
Elaine Rau
01:21:19
ASHA needs to work directly with state boards of ed to develop a severity matrix to determine workloads and require that districts follow it.
Jill Bailey
01:21:23
What do write on an IEP when using a 3:1 model
Stacey Ellison Glasgow
01:21:23
https://leader.pubs.asha.org/doi/full/10.1044/leader.SCM.24052019.36 3:1 Work Model article
Kimberly Ambrozaitis
01:21:24
What if you have an administrator that overrides or challenges your recommendations for a dismissal? Despite using data to drive decision making
Shirnett Kerr
01:21:26
Antoinette- it varies by state
Jodie Victor
01:21:54
Antoinette--my agency's max is 6
Lori Goldberg
01:22:11
Our 3-1 model works as 3 weeks of direct service to students and 1 week per month for indirect service, evaluations, meetings, make-up sessions...
Tanya Castro
01:22:30
Elaine I agree
MELINDA ALDRICH
01:22:30
I have been trained on administrating this one: https://www.sdcoe.net/student-services/special-education/niser/Pages/CSS.aspx
Shira Baratz
01:22:40
I find older kids tend to get embarrassed when you push in
Antoinette Bentley
01:22:53
Shirnett and Jodie- Thank you!!
Sherri AH (she, her)
01:23:20
When using 3:1, how many times see students per week when using 3:1?
Lori Goldberg
01:24:22
The IEPs are written X sessions/month. A student seen twice per week is seen 6x per month on the IEP
Francine DeMarco
01:24:42
Our state told us we could not implement the 3:1 model in our district
Sharon Alkalay
01:25:06
Does the workload calculator indicate an appropriate percentage/ratio of direct time to indirect services/paperwork time?
Suzette Perrin
01:25:25
Amazing Verna!!! No duty!!!
Jodie Palmer
01:25:36
would hiring an SLPA be helpful for a SLP's case load management?
Michelle Buckenberger
01:25:54
If you write minutes per month, you get your minutes in the first 3 weeks and then have the 4th week for other things. OR, it doesn’t have to be weeks, it could be therapy 4 days and other things on the 5th day (like Friday)
Sharon Schloss
01:26:16
we do sessions per year
Stephanie Kersting
01:26:18
We started writing sessions/year
Sharon Schloss
01:26:36
MY SUPERVISER TOLD ME CONSULT IME COMES OUT OF MY PLANNING TIME
MELINDA ALDRICH
01:26:41
This is one that you may find helpful as well: https://prakovic.edublogs.org/files/2015/10/Speech_Eligibility_Criteria-1cxgolo.pdf
Lisa Potruch
01:27:58
What does MTSS stand for?
Katherine Coleman
01:28:08
multi tiered systems of support
Jodie Victor
01:28:09
Each state has different guidelines for SLPA supervision. It was easy in Georgia, but all you need to be a SLPA there is a high school diploma. In California, the SLPAs are educated, but I was going to my own IEPs + the SLPA IEPs + supervision and it was TOO MUCH!
Shirnett Kerr
01:28:15
Thanks Melinda!
Gayle Schramek
01:28:17
we cannot write minutes per month as it significantly reduces the funding we receive if we don't report weekly minutes
Eva Hess
01:28:25
So many intelligibility issues this year for the kids with a sound error or two now that they are masked all day. I have had so many referrals already this school year.
Suzette Perrin
01:28:27
We have several therapy models: 30 minutes time 1 or 2 amonth, 30 times per month and or 30 minutes per semester--tracking.
Sherri Shire Susser
01:28:29
What is MTSS?
Tiffany White (she/her/hers)
01:28:42
School advocacy resources from ASHA https://www.asha.org/slp/schools/schools_resources_advocacy/
Suzette Perrin
01:28:54
mTSS==Multi Tiered System of Support
Kim Reynolds
01:29:08
I can do minutes per month but our data prep person has to have it in minutes per week to put in our student system/schedule. I think if we do minutes per month we can state the minutes they get in a "typical" week.
Lynn Sudak
01:29:10
Thank you!
Dwana Cole
01:29:13
Materials prep by high school kids would be lovely.
Jodie Palmer
01:30:50
Are SLP's interested in hiring/working with SLPA's?
Kim Reynolds
01:30:55
I am thinking maybe a rotating day each week to do "indirect service" ?
Anne Laird
01:32:08
I am in CA and love working with SLPAs
Jodie Palmer
01:32:43
thank you Anne :)
Jill Bailey
01:32:46
Kim, many SLPs I work with do therapy 4 days/week and have a paperwork/meeting day every Friday
Cheryl Thornton
01:32:59
In Utah, we call SLPAs SLTs. I love working with mine. I have found them to be very helpful.
Sharon Schloss
01:33:23
CT eligibility Criteria booklet is from 2008. that's really outdated...
Tara Kirkpatrick
01:33:23
SLP-As ROCK!
Lynn Sudak
01:33:32
We would love to have a paperwork/meeting day each week.
Alison Cianciolo
01:33:35
@ Jodie Palmer-yes/no-it depends on the level of expertise. I love working with SLPAs!!
Suzette Perrin
01:34:01
Dedicating the same day for paperwork is fine if you only have one school and all your special ed teachers are willing to conduct IEPs on that day. If you have more than one schools, it is difficult to organize all IEPs on that day for 2 schools and maybe 8 Special ed teachers.
Jodie Palmer
01:34:02
Thank you Alison
Nathalie Lebrun
01:34:05
SLP Assistants are an integral and critical cohort on in our SLP Department! :-)
Alison Cianciolo
01:34:29
@Sharon Schlus-RIGHT????
Jill Bailey
01:34:43
You are correct, Suzette. It does not work for everyone.
Kimberly Ambrozaitis
01:35:22
Jill, our “meeting” day is filled with 7 hours of meeting- IEPs, METs, Ateams - no time for paperwork unfortunately :(. Hence I take time away from my own kids to get it done - 5 hours on the weekend.
Alison Cianciolo
01:35:40
Sorry Sharon Schloss I missed spelled your name. No update since 2008! It is another uphill march for CSHA and the RESC agencies. BTW we have met!
Jill Bailey
01:35:47
I am so sorry to hear that, Kim!
Sherri AH (she, her)
01:36:20
How do you do 6 day, if working only 5 days?
Lynn Sudak
01:36:44
We have a six-day schedule. It can get cumbersome but you would see a child on, for example, Day 2 and 4, rather than Monday and Wednesday. It does provide more time in your overall schedule for therapy and other responsibilities.
Suzette Perrin
01:37:09
We are paid on the teacher contract so we are bound to those duties!! UGH.
Kimberly Ambrozaitis
01:37:12
Yes Eva! The same - sound errors and masking has increased referrals.
Lynn Sudak
01:37:33
On a six-day schedule, Day 1 may be on Monday, so that the following week, Day 1 would be on Tuesday. The days go through a cycle.
Carol Petersen
01:37:47
I am seeing students from other grades during lunches, recesses, etc. I have IEPs before and after school that interferes with bus duty.
Meghan Haney
01:37:56
I worked in a school with a 6 day schedule and it became a big problem about halfway through the year when the state informed the district we could not write IEPs that way - makeups had to be done across the board. It was awful.
Sharon Schloss
01:38:10
how can you have meetings before and after school? not paid for that
Alison Cianciolo
01:38:12
Are any SLPs paid on a different lane/scale than a classroom teacher with the same years of experience?
Sharon Schloss
01:38:14
Reposting this for both panelists and attendees: I am a PreK SLP in a high SES district. Many parents are learning that if they hire an advocate, right when their child turns 3 and transitions to public school, that the district will go above and beyond to avoid due process. I have 4 cases with advocates and IEE’s. One settled and I see her 5x/week for 45 minutes. How do I justify my recommendations for service delivery with objective data? Is there a matrix for service delivery for special populations? This issue is exponentially increasing my workload.
Fiona Gant
01:38:24
I spoke to my director and made a case for no duties for our SLP's as we are currently short 4 positions and time is very limited. I am grateful that my district has removed duties this year.
Jill Bailey
01:38:25
Same pay as teachers in my district. BUT teachers get a bump in pay for national certification however SLPs are not paid more if we have our CCCs. Double Standard.
Lynn Sudak
01:38:29
We write our IEPs as “2x30 minutes over six days”
Sherri AH (she, her)
01:38:30
If you do 6 day schedule, is it like rotating when kids are seen, since 5 day week of school?
Joan Derech
01:38:30
How does the 6 day schedule work when the classroom schedules (with art, gym, etc.) do not rotate on a 6 day schedule?
Sharon Schloss
01:39:10
we have 36 weeks of school and write 25 sessions, 50-55 sessions, 75-80 sessions or 90 sessions.
Suzette Perrin
01:39:15
Same here Jill no bump or extra for CCCs
Lynn Sudak
01:39:40
In our school, the whole school is on a 6 day cycle, so there isn’t any conflict that way. Classroom schedules and specials (e.g. art, computer) are also on a six-day schedule.
Kelly Braker
01:40:20
Same in my district in WI. No bump for CCC's. We are expected to get the Master Educator License in WI.
Alison Cianciolo
01:40:37
YES Christina!!! Hey you get to play games with the kids while we teach math.
Sherri AH (she, her)
01:40:39
Joan, that is true. Some middle and high school s don’t want kids missing academic classes. So, rotating therapy sessions isn’t practical.
Deirdre Curle
01:41:09
Could we get an example of a teacher vs SLP chart please?
Maureen Kurzynowski
01:41:42
When an administrator required me to do morning door duty and lunch duty, I presented my schedule and IEP schedule responsibilities. I asked the administrator to review both and suggest how to alter the (FULL caseload/workload) schedule to meet the mandated responsibilities. My lunch duty was reduced to one day for a couple of weeks; afterwards it was discontinued.
Tara Shell
01:41:52
NYC pays us more than teachers on the same line. It increases periodically. We make about 6K more
Alison Cianciolo
01:41:54
I had a few teachers that thought all we did in speech was fun and games-as the kids came back smiling and talking. Until I invited them into a session to see exactly what occurs-never heard those words again.
Karen V Senior
01:42:51
SC is a non union state
Lisa Potruch
01:43:06
I work at Charter Schools so I do not think I have a union. Anyone work for Charter schools that have a union?
Kelly Braker
01:43:15
WI has a union but no right for bargaining
Jennifer Seward
01:43:17
Iowa took away collective bargaining.
Katherine Coleman
01:43:30
Nope, no union at my charter either
Alison Cianciolo
01:43:37
@ Lisa Potruch-charter schools do not have a union.
Sharon Schloss
01:43:40
SLPs have to be in the union
Kelly Braker
01:43:52
WI took away collective bargaining.
Sherri AH (she, her)
01:43:55
How again do we receive CEU paper saying we attended this?
Lisa Potruch
01:44:00
Yeah, I did not think so. Heavy sigh.
Sharon Alkalay
01:44:04
I’m in a union but work at a charter school through my district so the school does not have to honor the union contract.
Tara Shell
01:44:14
Some NYC Charter schools are in the union
Suzette Perrin
01:44:23
SLPs in our school district are part of the Bargaining Unit even if they do not JOIN or pay dues to the Union.
Ann Walker
01:44:29
I was a union member for years; however, when negotiations came around, when things got tough, SLPs were always the bargaining chip and we were often just thrown under the bus.
Sherri AH (she, her)
01:44:54
When I worked, at first in union, then left union. When I retired, SLPs weren’t in the union.
Jane Miller
01:45:14
@ Jill Bailey--a friend of mine works in a district that decided to encourage NBC and extra pay for teachers. The SLP's contacted ASHA. ASHA was very helpful and told the school district that the SLP's have WAY more training than the Board Certification process. The district included SLP's in the pay raise based on the training they already had.
Ann Walker
01:45:40
It’s probably 50/50 here in terms of union members.
Jill Bailey
01:45:41
As SLPs, we teach everyone to speak but we still haven't learned to speak up for ourselves!
Gurinder Sandhu
01:45:56
I agree Jill
Katherine Coleman
01:46:02
At my previous district the union actively worked against SLPs being on a separate salary schedule from teachers, which made it sooo much harder to hire in our district than in neighboring districts with different rules
Susan Cogan
01:46:04
Yes, indeed!
Alison Cianciolo
01:46:04
@Jill Bailey-well said!
Ashley Johnson
01:46:12
Jane Miller-what state do you work in?
Ann Walker
01:46:16
Yes Jill, great comment.
Jane Miller
01:46:45
Ashley Johnson--Illinois
Sharon Schloss
01:46:47
my supervisor, who is NOT an SLP told me I had too much planning time. hhahahahahahahahaha
Thelma Pierce
01:47:05
I am an SLP and I became the Assistant Director of Related Services. As an administrator, I told the principals that the SLPs could not do duty in the during academic time because it interferes with scheduling. As teachers, they were supposed to do duty. I agree that certain types of duty, does allow you to see the students in more naturalistic situations. When I was working as an SLP, I would negotiate to work in areas like breakfast duty to be able to see how the students were doing during that time.
Francine DeMarco
01:49:24
I am an SLP and became a Related Services administrator. The staffing shortage has made it difficult to address the increased need of our SLPs and the students they serve especially after COVID
Francine DeMarco
01:49:39
We have a huge increase in referrals and assessments
Kathleen Cordero
01:50:15
So do we significant increase in referrals and requests for assessments
Eva Hess
01:50:44
We do as well
Maureen Kurzynowski
01:51:39
Ditto on increased referrals and assessments this year!
Charisse Wan
01:51:52
Same here in Vallejo , CA
Francine DeMarco
01:52:23
How do we properly assess students when baselines are so different due to COVID
Alison Cianciolo
01:52:30
For those with the increase in referrals, have the students gone through MTSS/RTI/SRBI?
Suzette Perrin
01:52:37
Same for huge increase in referrals and assessments in New Orleans. Huge staffing shortage as well
Lisa Rai Mabry-Price
01:52:39
ASHA Workload Resources https://www.asha.org/siteassets/uploadedfiles/events/2021-workload-town-hall-resources.pdf
Francine DeMarco
01:52:40
I fear that we are going to over identify students
Tiana McDowell
01:52:52
Yes I have many more referrals this year.
Tiana McDowell
01:53:06
Does anyone have a way to streamline the process?
Suzette Perrin
01:53:09
All but Pre K students go through RTI
Ashley Johnson
01:53:30
Jane Miller-would I be able to get your email address? We are trying to work on the exact same thing in our district with our union.
Lisa Rai Mabry-Price
01:53:32
open and download this certificate for Professional Development Hours - https://www.asha.org/siteassets/uploadedfiles/events/2021-workload-town-hall-resources.pdf
Suzette Perrin
01:54:01
Excellent panel members. Thank you.
Lisa Rai Mabry-Price
01:54:07
Use this link for Certificate - file:///C:/Users/lmabrypr/Downloads/Virtual%20Town%20Hall%2010.27.2021%20(1).pdf
Sharon Alkalay
01:54:09
This certificate link is just the resources page
Karen V Senior
01:54:15
Great information
Nathalie Lebrun
01:54:22
This was thought provoking and helpful! Thank you all!
Stephanie Kersting
01:54:32
There's no certificate
Jasmine Shojinaga
01:54:34
Lisa we can’t copy paste from the chat
Katherine Coleman
01:54:35
That second certificate link is giving me an error
MELINDA ALDRICH
01:54:37
Can you make the link for Certificate a hyperlink?
Karen V Senior
01:54:39
the link isn't live
Sharon Alkalay
01:54:40
Me too
Erin Seitz
01:54:42
I cannot access the certificate
Amy Johnson-Spann
01:54:48
It’s an error link
Kelly Braker
01:54:48
Link for certificate doesn't work
Jane Miller
01:54:51
Ashley Johnson
Alexandra Levin
01:54:51
cannot access certificate
Lita Manookian
01:54:52
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Martha Veldkamp
01:54:53
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Fiona Gant
01:54:55
Cant access the certificate
Lisa Potruch
01:54:56
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Lisa Rai Mabry-Price
01:54:57
Please email schools@asha.org if you have issues with the certificate
Arlene Arthur
01:55:01
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Lisa Mickle
01:55:03
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Julie Peacock
01:55:04
thanks again!!
Paula Millikin
01:55:04
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01:55:05
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Kim Reynolds
01:55:06
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Sybil Marcella Kent
01:55:11
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Michelle Buckenberger
01:55:11
The link is just the agenda topics
Meghan Haney
01:55:11
Everyone is having trouble with the certificate
Kristin Hoover
01:55:12
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Karen Brody
01:55:12
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01:55:13
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Sharon Nicole Forrest
01:55:14
can you pin the certificate?
Karen Williams
01:55:15
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